Good news travels fast…
on November 12th, 2010, by estherHi all,
Of course we knew our girl Sintel has travelled far & wide… but as far as Indonesia?
Check out the ‘rip-off illegal DVD’ a friend of mine found in a DVD shop in Bali. Unfortunately they didn’t get all the names of the team quite right… but as my friend said: ‘what bigger compliment than an illegal copy of your film?’ π
Hope all of you enjoy the genuine Sintel DVD, and thanks for all the positive feedback!
x Esther
November 12th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Haha. Well you had got to expect it one day. i think Jan (the sound guy) found one a few weeks, ago, he posted it on his twitter.
(FIRST POST!)
November 12th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
(sorry for the double, pictures didn’t load. That is the same one Jan twiter π
November 12th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
“Sony Pictures”? Wow! :O
November 12th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
What… Read the blurb on the back. o_O
November 12th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Like all good rip off movies the back blurb is of a completely unrelated movie
November 12th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Wow, this is so cool – if only they did the credits right…
November 12th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Ahah, the blurl on the back is the one from ‘Chasseur de Dragons’ (I think it’s ‘Dragon Hunters’ in english…)
Nice! π
November 12th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Zoe? hahahahaha… who knew.
November 12th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
How can it be “Bootleg” if the entire project is “Creative Commons” ? π
(Humor)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bc/Nausicaaposter.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8f/Sintel_poster.jpg/424px-Sintel_poster.jpg
http://www.sintel.org/sharing/
November 12th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
“ThE ADVANTURE BEGIN…”
Woohoo! hilarious, if a bit tragic. But I’m slightly confused – are there legal problems with this, or since it’s CC does that just mean whoever made this are a bit foolish and uninformed?
November 12th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
*facepalm*
November 12th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
wow indondesia?? is a little sad see that people buy things that are free, by the way im waiting my 4 dvds arrive son.
November 12th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
@JaydenB: Actually, the one I tweeted about was this one; Esther shared the find on our mailing list a few days ago.
November 12th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
109 minutes? They are really strange.
November 12th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
109 minutes, they probably changed the framerate to 1 frame per second or so then…
November 12th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
How much for this?
π
November 12th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Very funny π <3
November 12th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Very funny indeed. π
However, if they got the attribution right (which maybe they didn’t? Sony has nothing to do with it anyway) and kept the licensing intact, would it really be correct to call it an “illegal copy”? I think it’s more like selling Blender on ebay in that case, in which case I guess it’s legal, but a “dick move”.
Of course, the audio has the noncommercial clause though, so I guess if they kept the audio, then it is illegal. But hey, maybe they replaced the audio with a story from that weird one they described on the back of the DVD… now *that* would be an interesting remix π
November 12th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
The 109 minute extended cut. π
November 12th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
If they kept the end credits in tact on the actual film it would be legal to distribute, no copyright infringement at all. Now, depending on the local laws, someone might be able to sue them for false advertising on the cover, but the movie itself would be strangely legal. Of course, I really doubt that the BF would bother with going after these guys either way, both based on general principles and the reaction on this very blog.
November 12th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
I should mention that I’m more than open to an actual 109 minute extended cut of Sintel. π
November 13th, 2010 at 12:58 am
@Christopher:
The audio of the film has (naturally) the same license as the images of it, it’s an entirety, just like a tree and its roots. π
The separate OST album DOES have another license indeed.
November 13th, 2010 at 4:58 am
I just hope no one comes across porn edition of Sintel. π
November 13th, 2010 at 6:38 am
Oooh, no. I’m sorry. I’m an Indonesian, and I just found out this problem this time. I do not know what they (illegal copy maker) are thinking. Why they should make it, since everyone could download and get video from this site?
As an Indonesian, I’m very sorry about this.
November 13th, 2010 at 7:23 am
dancok sopo arek2 sing grusak rai indonesia..
lha yowis indonesia pancen ngono di apakno mane .. π gak ono sawah yo file di bajak … sing penting tetep kerjo ..
November 13th, 2010 at 10:05 am
@Bayu:
Don’t even break a sweat over this heh, this is quite funny in fact. They must be needing money real bad if they went through the trouble of printing all those dvds.
Just hope it won’t affect dvd sales too much.
November 13th, 2010 at 10:15 am
I wonder what’s inside, really.
I’m an Indonesian (but not from Bali), I guess I’ll go find it and play it in store, just out of curiosity.
November 13th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Lol,what are they thinking?! I’m Indonesian and I’m so sorry to hear that our girl Sintel got rip-off illegaly.I hope it wonβt affect dvd sales too much. *Facepalm
November 13th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
oh god!!! As an Indonesian, Iβm very sorry about this.
November 13th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
About the duration of this bluray, I think they add the documentary and all the videos durations time.
So, movie (15 min) + documentary (58 min) + all the shorts videos (36 min ?) = 109 minutes.
November 13th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Well, for everyone who was curious – myself included – I just tried it out in my DVD player: it is not the extended 109′ version… (so yes, I’d better start writing, David Jordan ;-))… but it was in fact our ‘original’ film. If in a pretty wobbly quality!
They did however make a DVD menu & all, + a trailer of ‘Tron’ included – never knew we produced that one as well π
I’ll try and upload some more pictures.
@Rickyx, it was a great buy @ only 1 Euro…
Esther
November 13th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Aw… I was rather hoping that they’d used the film’s assets to add an hour of their own sequel material. And hired Nathan and co. on as actors. π
I love the misspellings and “hi-def DVD” on the cover.
November 13th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
LOL whenre can I buy that 1 euro DVD version.
And I think it’s NOT legal. All that talk about “you can use it, even commercially” and on the first time it happened sintel.org suggests its illegal. Don’t forget the BluRay versions of Elephants Dream and Big Buck Bunny. They even used the DVD cover design which was the only thing not being ‘open’
Well where to buy it, hehe. not on ebay at least…
November 14th, 2010 at 5:24 am
It is legal when the source is referenced correctly, the license is stated correctly etc. Is this the case? I’d guess not, because of all the other lies on the pictures. So I guess it is an illegal version.
November 14th, 2010 at 8:26 am
as indonesian that makes me really ashamed π .I’m from surabaya ,and i dont know who did it either. but representing indonesian i’d like to apologies to Sintel and teams ,n blender users in the whole of the world.
November 14th, 2010 at 9:15 am
@LOGAN:
I think the people who made this version have more to worry about from Sony and the producers of Tron than the blender folks.
The only reason this isn’t perfectly legit (aside from false advertising, Sony’s Trademark, and the Tron commercial) is that they haven’t properly attributed the people who did make the film, and even then it might be borderline if they kept the end credits intact.
Even if Ton were pissed about this, which I doubt, I’ll bet he’d be fine if I started passing around Sintel DVDs for a buck, even moreso if the DVD menu featured a dancing Sintel.
November 14th, 2010 at 10:45 am
man, this is too awesome !!! thats where the big ones can learn from. hope the story will continue. makes me cry as she found out who the “beast” really is . . . .
that one kicks ass . . . keep on and a big thanks for such a great work.
November 14th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
@Esther: Please use VLC player for making screenshots. (and not that cute TV π )
November 14th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Haha! First of all, 109 minutes. Second, description. Third, everything else! All of this perks me up for a laugh! I can’t believe anyone would bootleg a movie that is free to download (legally) on the internet that is only 15 minutes long! If Sintel is about ten time longer, it would make sense.
BTW, is it possible to make an open movie that is feature length? If not, I would understand all the manpower (and computing power) required to do that.
I would really love to be involve on the next open movie project (well, I need to meet the prerequisites first lol)
November 14th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Technical Issue: Each picture seems to have it’s own comment thread.
November 14th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
Let me see if I got this straight: Sintel ran away to Indonesia, changed her name to “Zoe”, and is now working for Sony Pictures!?! Sintel have you no shame?
BTW The chapters in the scene selection is all out of order. π
November 15th, 2010 at 6:19 am
sintel is so good that people have invested money on pirating it. Good job people feel its worth stealing.
November 15th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Please, don’t tell me that they use my subtitle (Indonesian) for the DVD. I’m really sad….
November 15th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Poor Ton, he is now known as Bo Hyde.
And to poke Esther I’d like to add that the description sounds like a nice movie. lol. More like a Martin one π
I remember buying some good and some bad dvd’s in Bangkok. But I can’t say buying Sintel for a buck is a rip-off. (-:
One that made me laugh was a movie that ended halfway, but it was so bad I never took the time to buy the rest, so in fact they did me a favour.
Actualy, for Indonesian people it’s rather great to have a bootleg Sintel, fast internet is sparse and a dvd copy of $46,= is a weeks wages. Although one can doubt these expensive copies are sold to locals. At least not in Thailand.
http://www.google.nl/images?q=Khao+San+Road
November 15th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
O,… looks like the dvd is 4:3? What’s that all about? lol.
November 15th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Or the DVD player is set on pan & scan. π
November 15th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Lol, the trailer is for Tron? That’s amazing.
November 16th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Actually guys, I paid 15.000 rupia (about 1 euro 20) for this in Ubud, Bali. But if you think that is too much, I also saw them in Kuta, Bali for only 12.000 (one euro). So there. Happy to bring so much joy to all π
November 16th, 2010 at 10:07 am
@Bert:
15.000 rupia? What a rip-off !!! π What is a beer there 20.000? But you are in Ubud so I’m guessing the joy is on you. Here it’s all misty windy and cold.
November 16th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
An brilliant short movie……. really touchy story as well.
November 17th, 2010 at 7:21 am
This is ashamed. Indonesian government is having so many incompetent ministers.
Its IT minister (Mr. Tifatul Sembiring) only knows on talking about pornography law, rather than promoting the IT talents there.
I am fully ashamed to be as Indonesian.
November 17th, 2010 at 9:13 am
hahaha, yeah, my country did not like the pay, it sucks because of the economic and entertainment in Indonesia is poor, and often copying each other, until only the hijackers because of the economic state seal
November 17th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
I guess the people who would buy this wouldn’t have bought one from the Blender Foundation, so I don’t think anything is lost. At least they’re getting the word out π
November 17th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Still a bit ticked off my name isn’t on there, but I have to admit that even though I helped make the thing and have a stack of legit 4 disk sets…
I’d probably still buy it for the humour value. π
November 18th, 2010 at 8:59 am
I recently found Sintel on several file sharing boards, and the only on-topic comments are saying something like “Oh, another nice pixar short”… I think it is great to see that you made a movie with a quality like pixar has!
Maybe they will jump on the train and will make a full-length movie with you!
November 18th, 2010 at 10:18 am
Woah.. Looks like Sony and MPAA secretly filmed a 109 min Sintel that was pirated prior to release.
To whoever bought that – release a ‘camrip’ from tv-set to torrents and afterwars (in a week or so) a DVD-Rip. Just to make things proper =)
November 19th, 2010 at 3:50 am
I always knew they were comitting dirty tricks… π
It’s quite hard to fight piracy, for example: the leaked Harry Potter 7 can still be found… (I wish them good luck in removing it, but it’s quite… impossible…)
November 19th, 2010 at 3:54 am
I always knew they were committing dirty tricks… π
It’s quite hard to fight piracy, for example: the leaked Harry Potter 7 can still be found… (I wish them good luck in removing it, but it’s quite… impossible…)
Let’s laugh about it, Sintel is not a commercial film after all π
November 20th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
well, i’m from Indonesia, and it’s embarrassing for knowing the piracy in Indonesia is that bad….
i dunno what really happen, but for me, original DVD is very rare and very expensive to buy (the original DVD price is enough for 2-3 tickets in theater), the government also don’t take action for this. that makes the original DVD in Indonesia become less and more people make piracy
as Indonesian people, I apologize about it, but actually, this movie is pretty good, i thought it is really from big production house like disney or sony like in the cover :). two thumbs up for u guys!
November 22nd, 2010 at 4:59 pm
Original music by Erin O’Hara it says
You got to love Jan Morgenstern’s alter ego: http://www.erinohara.com/index
November 22nd, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Amazing movie.. Even more so coz released under the CC license. You do know that the name “durian” is HUGE here in Indonesia, right? Prolly that’s why you’ll be getting a lot of coverage from here. Again, congrats for a job welldone.
November 26th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Just wanted to say that through the great benefit of TVS in Sydney Australia I saw this wonderful and beautiful piece of art and knew almost immediately that it was likely to be Blender, the resolution, the hair, the particles, the fog, DoF, all familiar to me.
But of course what truly blew me away was just how closely and emotional a piece of film this was. It reached, it soared and flew, and left with a touch of sadness. Quite an excellent achievement beyond mere technicalities.
Every time I found myself thinking about “how did they accomplish that”? I was immediately brought back into the story. That’s what gripped me and that is a real accomplishment. It didn’t surprise me just how long a list of credits there was (unfortunately on TV, the resolution wasn’t high enough – I still watch a CRT TV! – to recognise every name, even make out many, but I somehow ‘knew’ that this was a Blender animation.
So I want to say thank you. Thanks to all of you who worked on the film, but in particular thanks to everyone and the philosophy that makes an excellent piece of software available as open source. Truly, it is a gift that will keep on giving, and if sintel is any example, the sky is the limit, or perhaps not even the sky!
Sincerely, thank you.
Michael Kortvelyesy.
November 30th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
@Michael:
Nevermind that list of unreadable names, that’s people who bought the dvd without knowing what the movie would be about. Sponsors.
Not sure why those are on the credit list, I’m proud enough to be part without having a cluttered 34 pixels trying to disform my name.
November 30th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
this movie is great…. story is great maybe some tweaks but fucking awsome. i hope you make a whole move and a wonderfull game i wish you the best ….
December 5th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Mine just arrived in the post today (not ordered from Indonesia π lol!) from the Blender shop. Shame I have to put the baby to bed, and deal with the wife before I can get in to it properly!
A brief look at the disks shows GREAT value for money :>
I saw Sintel before and loved it, now I have it in its various formats AND all the project files (& much more) thanks to you guys. Cant wait to start going through the disks and tutorials properly :>
On a side note: anyone notice how you can import camera tracking scripts fine in 2.49b but 2.55 wont run the scripts (too many error messages to go in to!) anyways, gonna check a few forums and maybe fill in a bug report if I cant find a current issue reported. I hear through the grape vine (if its true??) that the next release of blender might have a camera/motion tracking feature, hope this is true)
Thank you all at the Blender Foundation for soO much, been a fan for ages and own BBB & Sintel, cant seem to find Elephants dream disks ANYWHERE!!!
Keep up the good work, heres to the next Movie :>
December 7th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Yes. Now I know why this project named “Durian”.
December 9th, 2010 at 10:05 am
Actually, those pirates in Indonesia will sell illegal copy of anything, including fans movie e.g. Metal Gear Solid Philanthropy, Batman City of Scars.
Some Indonesian didn’t get connected to internet so buying this illegal copy maybe the only way to watch them.
Btw, the newest Infolinux magazine (edition Ubuntu Meerkat) have Sintel as bonus of their magazine. Thus, all linux lovers in Indonesia should have heard about this movie since its the famous magazine about Linux in Indonesia.
December 17th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
I’m from Indonesia! π Pirated DVDs are everywhere I swear…
December 21st, 2010 at 10:32 am
Heh.. the “description” of the movie is from a movie I just watched like an hour ago called “Dragon Hunters” after that movie, I decided to watch Sintel for a second time. lol…
January 27th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
Sintel has also been featured in the official promotion of the Notion Ink Adam iPad…
http://notionink.com
Further, In one of the videos, Rohan (the founder of Notion Ink) has showed his potential customers how to use blender by making his iPad act like a false digitizer